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kutil di kemal...really nice article, keep posting!<br /><br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/pbln7l5" rel="nofollow">kutil di kemaluan wanita</a><br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/moy6mal" rel="nofollow">kutil di kemaluan pria</a><br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/q32l5md" rel="nofollow">menghilangkan kutil di kemaluan</a><br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/npgpzoe" rel="nofollow">cara mengobati kutil di kemaluan</a><br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/kn4cpmw" rel="nofollow">obat wasir ampuh</a><br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/pyhrr97" rel="nofollow">obat ambeien di apotik</a><br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/q3dkoww" rel="nofollow">obat ambeien</a><br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/kdhndjt" rel="nofollow">obat ambeien tanpa operasi</a><br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/pe2w5bo" rel="nofollow">obat untuk ambeien yang sudah parah</a><br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/qdz9564" rel="nofollow">mengobati ambeien secara alami</a><br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/lq8279t" rel="nofollow">mengobati kanker serviks</a><br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/nc7t2zm" rel="nofollow">mengobati kanker payudara</a><br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/n9euz2h" rel="nofollow">obat kanker</a>blogkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09967923669323451556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-74686125424263848102007-10-16T19:32:00.000-04:002007-10-16T19:32:00.000-04:00I think the reason that nut-squeezing is so strong...I think the reason that nut-squeezing is so strongly discouraged is not de facto misogynism, but related to the severe proviso's against 'seed spillage', i.e., to waste a sperm is to waste a man, and to waste a man is to waste a universe, ad infinitum.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11344762744404491957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133819638404129802005-12-05T16:53:00.000-05:002005-12-05T16:53:00.000-05:00That is exactly what I'm saying Laura. That's why ...That is exactly what I'm saying Laura. That's why I enjoy talking to you--<BR/>I think too many denominations of the faith focus on the fire and brimstone too.<BR/>They make Jesus' salvational work on the cross secondary to one's own merits.Sadie Louhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07362158642491145353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133817939628406642005-12-05T16:25:00.000-05:002005-12-05T16:25:00.000-05:00I think we're agreeing Sadie (gasp). You have to ...I think we're agreeing Sadie (gasp). You have to take the context of the laws into account. But my earlier point in this discussion was that far too many "christians" focus on the Old Testament fire & brimstone laws rather than the true teachings of Jesus. The problem there is, as you said earlier, many of Jesus' teachings are allegorical - meaning in need of human interpretation - meaning not to be taken literally, but figuratively, within the context of a given culture and time.Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129109937230440481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133810782809319582005-12-05T14:26:00.000-05:002005-12-05T14:26:00.000-05:00Just curious. Anyone who does not follow the Bible...<I>Just curious. Anyone who does not follow the Bible to the absolute letter cannot be a true literalist. Anyone who does, cannot possibly survive in modern society.</I><BR/><BR/>This is probably the single, most frustrating thing about arguing religion with unbelievers. I can't seem to get through people's heads that there are different covenants with the Lord throught history.<BR/>The one we are currently living under is the covenant of grace.<BR/>God sent his only son to die on the cross to satisfy his wrath against past sins, present sins and future sins.<BR/>Up until Christ's death and ressurection, God's people satisfied his wrath through obedience to the law and animal sacrifice as well as offerings.<BR/>There was also the Levitical/Temple laws<BR/>There was the Mosaic law<BR/>There was man-made laws<BR/>People get these things all jumbled up in their minds because they don't take the time to figure out the real story. People just hear "don't wear clothing of mixed fibers" and go," That's wacky!" without trying to understand it's origins.<BR/>It's like an alien from space coming to America and saying," That is SO wrong that you guys make people of color sit at the back of the bus; you're wacky." without researching the history of that statement.Sadie Louhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07362158642491145353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133802377894128032005-12-05T12:06:00.000-05:002005-12-05T12:06:00.000-05:00SL - then how come we don't still adhere to all th...SL - then how come we don't still adhere to all the laws in the Bible if it's eternal, literal, and we're given no authority to interpret or change it? Why aren't we still punishing people who don't observe the sabath? Or who eat shellfish? Or who wear cotton and linen together (or white shoes after labor day)?<BR/><BR/>Just curious. Anyone who does not follow the Bible to the absolute letter cannot be a true literalist. Anyone who does, cannot possibly survive in modern society.Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129109937230440481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133546510184278752005-12-02T13:01:00.000-05:002005-12-02T13:01:00.000-05:00One HAS to assume that the Bible is literal. Other...One HAS to assume that the Bible is literal. Otherwise, one has to believe that God doesn't mean what he says or say what he means, and is incapable of communicating His wishes clearly with that thing He created. <BR/><BR/>If we assume that one part is to taken literally and another figuratively, then we are left to question how to tell the difference and by what standard to decide. the Bibles themselves do NOT offer any information on this, leading this reader to assume that everything is meant quite literal. The tone of the OT in terms of adherence to WORDS (Ayleh haDEVARIM)sugggests a straight-forward and literal law giving. <BR/><BR/>Some suggest that God left it up to us to interpret the Bibles where it seems unclear. For those of you who ascribe to this, please tell em where you get the authority to make that decision? Is it somewhere in the Scripture? And if it isn't, then how do you assume such authority? <BR/><BR/>If we can willy-nilly translate and interpret on our own, then it is liley that you are not fulfilling God's Word, but your own; in effect picking and choosing the meanings YOU want from the Bible, as ooposed to the literal meanings that God likely intended, which is why He said it in the 1st place.Shlomo Leib Aronovitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10407211641091145197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133542230468250572005-12-02T11:50:00.000-05:002005-12-02T11:50:00.000-05:00Sadie - my point wasn't the nature of the law itse...Sadie - my point wasn't the nature of the law itself, or who is doing the interpretation. It was that literalism, no matter how you slice it, doesn't work. <BR/><BR/>Literalism: Adherence to the explicit sense of a given text or doctrine. <BR/><BR/>If the Bible is the <B>literal and eternal</B> law and word of God, then it can't be taken piecemeal (these passages are archaic so we'll throw them aside because somehow we know that God didn't mean for those to apply to us right now, but we like these over here), but literalism also doesn't work in the entirety either (because as you said, common sense says the laws aren't eternal and forever applicable). So either way - literalism does not work.Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129109937230440481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133526305838452902005-12-02T07:25:00.000-05:002005-12-02T07:25:00.000-05:00Asher,Do you think Israeli women would sit by and ...Asher,<BR/><BR/>Do you think Israeli women would sit by and do nothing to help the man they love? How about South American women? How about black women? A lot of women on this planet and in this age are NOT the mousy little crybabies you imagine them (or want them) to be. Those tougher ones are the kind of women I love. <BR/><BR/>As far as bars and clubs....It really doesn't matter what social class one is speaking of, once alcohol is added, anything can happen. The reason that many clubs (I worked in the upscale ones) have security is to protect the club from law suits that other patrons would file if they were hurt in an alercation. When a man and woman get into a physical fight and a bouncer tries to break them up by restraining the husband, 7 out of 10 times the woman will attack the bouncer in defense of her man. Seen it many times.Shlomo Leib Aronovitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10407211641091145197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133483278867181752005-12-01T19:27:00.000-05:002005-12-01T19:27:00.000-05:00Just wondering...has anyone actually seen a fight ...Just wondering...has anyone actually seen a fight where this happened? In every fight I've ever seen the women are off on the side crying about their men getting pummeled. (When two women fight everyone enjoys the show). I guess aronovitz has worked some very scary bars and night clubs.asherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09237854868544073084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133471999644822402005-12-01T16:19:00.000-05:002005-12-01T16:19:00.000-05:00When we hear of new legislation being added, we us...When we hear of new legislation being added, we usually wonder what happened to make this new law necessary. <BR/><BR/>One would think that the normal Tort rules would apply here, but it's obviously not the case. There is something more to this than personal injury. <BR/><BR/>Now if a man squeeze's the bejeebus out of another man's beytzim, what is his punishment? The Torah doesn't say "Ayver tachas Ayver" (Ayver literally means limb, but it is usually used in reference to the 'limb'.)<BR/><BR/>Sadie Lou said something about her punishment as having her pubes shaved off. Firstly, how would you know that from the Scripture, and secondly, where would I apply for that job?Shlomo Leib Aronovitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10407211641091145197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133471395086167082005-12-01T16:09:00.000-05:002005-12-01T16:09:00.000-05:00This rule like most of the other rules were to mak...This rule like most of the other rules were to make sure that MEN ruled the rulings. Mr. Winkie is the 'sweet spot', and doing damage to it is not only a matter of personal injury or insult, but damage to it could stop the other guy from making babies or taking his pleasure. This was a society created by men, for men, and women were more or less property. <BR/><BR/>The 'logic' here isn't tough to figure out. The 11th commandment is "Don't mess with Mr. Winkie, bitch!" Moses was doing a 'solid' for his homies. Pimp hand way strong!Shlomo Leib Aronovitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10407211641091145197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133470842972262192005-12-01T16:00:00.000-05:002005-12-01T16:00:00.000-05:00I think this law fits in nicely with the descripti...I think this law fits in nicely with the description of Talionic Justice: In which case, God allowed man's poetic justice of "eye for eye, tooth for a tooth" until Jesus puts an end to that form of justice in his teachings.<BR/>So when a woman publically disgraced herself with such an aggressive form of brutality, she was repaid in kind with the loss of her hand. I also heard that later the law suggested that her hair (down there) be shaved off instead. I think the whole thing is strange.Sadie Louhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07362158642491145353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133467864391382742005-12-01T15:11:00.000-05:002005-12-01T15:11:00.000-05:00All I know is that if my Dad ordered me to chop of...All I know is that if my Dad ordered me to chop off my sister's hand because she grabbed a man's balls, I would disobey him and stop taking his advice seriously in the future.Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133464670485249982005-12-01T14:17:00.000-05:002005-12-01T14:17:00.000-05:00It's not up to me to decide what's fair and reason...It's not up to me to decide what's fair and reasonable. I'm not of that time nor am I God. I don't think stoning your disobedient children was fair and reasonable either--but I don't have to think it's fair.<BR/>My kids very rarely think I'm being fair or reasonable.<BR/>;)Sadie Louhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07362158642491145353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133459694138615852005-12-01T12:54:00.000-05:002005-12-01T12:54:00.000-05:00Sadie Lou,So do you think the law was fair and rea...Sadie Lou,<BR/><BR/>So do you think the law was fair and reasonable?Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133457867095243642005-12-01T12:24:00.000-05:002005-12-01T12:24:00.000-05:00JA--Yes. I believe that was a law for that time.La...JA--<BR/>Yes. I believe that was a law for that time.<BR/><BR/>Laura--<BR/>It's not rocket science. It's clear that this was a real law. See sl aronovitz's explanation of why this would be a law even though it seems "wacky" to us. Keep in mind: Americans are not the last word on everything. The Bible was written to accomidate everyone: Jews and Gentiles. Just because Scripture goes against the American "grain" doesn't mean Scripture is wrong. It's quite possible America is wrong--in fact, I'm certain of it.Sadie Louhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07362158642491145353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133444523163121852005-12-01T08:42:00.000-05:002005-12-01T08:42:00.000-05:00Asher,Further elucidation.You operate in an enviro...Asher,<BR/><BR/>Further elucidation.<BR/><BR/>You operate in an environment where people generally do not come to blows over their differences. I worked security in bars and night clubs. I have seen women go for the other man's Mr. Winkie (or their own man's.) It's not pretty. Women in a fight can be very, very vicious, and unlike the macho-men who puff themselves up and take risks to swing at each other, women get right to the vulnerable spots without hesitation. <BR/><BR/>In those times, if a woman's husband was injured in a fight, she would be left without parnoso. She wasn't protecting him so much as she was herself.<BR/><BR/>Ever go yo a baseball game and a ground ball takes a bad hop and crushes some poor 2nd baseman in the cajoles? Every man in the stadium feels a sympathy pain at that moment. It was for this reason that Moshe enacted such a rule to punish those who hurt Mr. Winkie.Shlomo Leib Aronovitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10407211641091145197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133394688209361662005-11-30T18:51:00.001-05:002005-11-30T18:51:00.001-05:00to sl aronovitz:Focus. Two guys are in a fight. Th...to sl aronovitz:<BR/><BR/>Focus. <BR/><BR/>Two guys are in a fight. The wife of one of them grabs the other fighter's nuts and applies pressure. <BR/><BR/>This is the situation. What I asked was how could a woman get in between two guys fighting like that and manage to squeeze his nether reigions? The whole sitation is so strange it must logically have some other reason.<BR/>Perhaps says that men's testicles are more important than a woman's attempt to save her husband's life..who the hell knows.asherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09237854868544073084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133359141603986602005-11-30T08:59:00.000-05:002005-11-30T08:59:00.000-05:00Re: you have to wonder how a woman would think to ...Re: you have to wonder how a woman would think to grab a guy's crotch when her husband is in a fight.<BR/><BR/>Ever have a woman (or anyone) grab your nuts and squeeze real hard? Try it out and you’ll have you’re answer. It will definitely ruin your day. <BR/><BR/>In this case, she is doing what she can to protect her husband. Either the Torah doesn’t want women to break up fights or, as I suspect is the case, Moses was worried that the patriarchal nonsense he instituted would create a few “Lorena Bobbitts”, so he figured we should offer special protection to “Mr. Winkie.” <BR/><BR/>“Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned.”Shlomo Leib Aronovitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10407211641091145197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133355350663059242005-11-30T07:55:00.000-05:002005-11-30T07:55:00.000-05:00"Yes that translation was interpreted correctly by..."Yes that translation was interpreted correctly by Henry."<BR/><BR/>Says who? Who's authority was used to decide which translation was "correct"? Some human being. Human beings are fallible and can make mistakes. What happens if people decide his translation is wrong in certain areas? Is there room for discussion and deliberation on "the word of God"? It sounds like a big contradiction to me.Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129109937230440481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133319455382217302005-11-29T21:57:00.000-05:002005-11-29T21:57:00.000-05:00Funny that I could write something that even I don...<I> Funny that I could write something that even I don't agree with.</I><BR/><BR/>Happens to the best of us. :) It's those who can't admit when they're wrong who are in trouble.<BR/><BR/><I>I meant only to say that by weaving together the many stories and propositions, a larger, more unified picture emerges; that of God's plan to reconcile Man to Himself.</I><BR/><BR/>That sounds like a whole discussion in itself. Perhaps you should write a post about it.Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133313866808431262005-11-29T20:24:00.000-05:002005-11-29T20:24:00.000-05:00So you believe that the verses were meant literall...So you believe that the verses were meant literally at the time?Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13054771.post-1133313593169900282005-11-29T20:19:00.000-05:002005-11-29T20:19:00.000-05:00I think you are confusing the old covenant with th...I think you are confusing the old covenant with the new covenant. Yes that translation was interpreted correctly by Henry. Yes it was a real law to be followed. No we are not under that law anymore for when Jesus died on the cross, he fulfilled the law, not abolished it--but finished it. We do not die by the law anymore.Sadie Louhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07362158642491145353noreply@blogger.com